Ticketing Execs Laugh at ‘Stupid’ Customers in Leaked Chats

‘ALMOST FEEL BAD’

“Robbing them blind, baby. That’s how we do it,” one Live Nation executive wrote to another.

Taylor Swift performs as her record-breaking The Eras Tour comes to an end with the first of her three concerts in Vancouver, Canada 2024
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Newly leaked internal messages reveal two Live Nation ticketing directors bragging about “price gouging” customers.

“These people are so stupid. I almost feel bad for taking advantage of them,” Live Nation regional director Ben Baker wrote in a 2022 Slack message to a fellow director.

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The Live Nation directors bragged of charging customers "$50 for grass parking" and "$60 for closer grass." They even charged customers $100 for oversized parking, which had no RV hookup and required them to walk 3/4 mile to the venue. Dado Ruvic/REUTERS

“I gouge them on ancil prices,” Baker added, referencing ancillary prices like parking or preferred seating.

The chats from Live Nation, which is the parent company of Ticketmaster, were made public during the company’s ongoing federal antitrust trial. Though the ticketing company asked the judge to exclude the messages, the Justice Department opposed the request, and the messages were made public after a petition by media organizations.

In the back-and-forth exchange, Baker and fellow regional director Jeff Weinhold gloated over how they gouged customers through ancillary fees, including exorbitant upcharges for lawn chair rentals, preferred seating, parking, and VIP access.

Weinhold boasted that he charged customers “$50 to park in the grass” and “$60 for closer grass.”

For one concert in Virginia, Weinhold said he increased VIP parking prices to $250.

Taylor Swift fans outside of the Live Nation-Ticketmaster antitrust lawsuit
Swift's fans protested outside the Senate antitrust trial over Live Nation–Ticketmaster's monopoly of the concert ticket industry. Drew Angerer/Getty Images

“Robbing them blind, baby. That’s how we do it,” he added.

Baker, who is now the company’s head of ticketing, overseeing more than 150 amphitheaters across the country, even boasted of upcharging customers for aisle seats, which he called “Preferred Seating.”

Weinhold said he didn’t anymore because he’d received complaints from “angry people” who said they only sold “marked-up tickets.”

“Yeah, that’s the point,” Baker replied. “If you want to buy before 10 am, pay me! lol.”

“I gouge them on ancil prices to make up for it,” Weinhold added.

Center stage in the government’s antitrust lawsuit against Live Nation-Ticketmaster is the Taylor Swift presale misfire in which the site crashed due to bots looking to resell tickets on the secondary market. Fans experienced excessive wait times and numerous technical difficulties.

Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran on the Era's Tour stage
Swift's Eras Tour presale was marred by more than 4.3 million bots who sought to resell tickets for exorbitant prices on the resale marketplace. Gareth Cattermole/TAS24/Getty Images

Ticketmaster blamed the incident on botting, but federal prosecuters said it was evidence of how their ticket monopoly lead to an inferior product for consumers.

Several other artists have spoken out against exorbitant ticket prices, including Beyoncé, Pearl Jam, and Oasis.

Baker, who was expected to testify this week, had his appearance postponed after the Justice Department reached a $200 million settlement with Live Nation on Monday.

Beyoncé has been touring her country album "Cowboy Carter" since April.
Like Swift, Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter tour presale left fans exasperated by technical difficulties and botted purchases. Alex Slitz/Getty Images

The settlement would be paid out to states, allow third-party sellers to access the ticketing platform, and cap service fees for amphitheater tickets at 15% of the ticket price.

More than half of the country’s states have rejected the settlement, saying it was inadequate and would “benefit Live Nation at the expense of consumers.”

In a statement to The Daily Beast, a Live Nation spokesperson distanced the company from the leaked chats and said the fee cap exemplified the company’s commitment to customers.

“The Slack exchange from one junior staffer to a friend absolutely doesn’t reflect our values or how we operate,” the spokesperson said. “Because this was a private Slack message, leadership learned of this when the public did, and will be looking into the matter promptly.”

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